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Saturday, April 19, 2008

Final Democrat Debate


Along with about ten million viewers I watched what hopefully will be the final debate between Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. I agree with the media critics who are saying this was the worst Presidential debate production ever. ABC seemed more interested in trying to boost its ratings than in trying to help voters understand the positions of the candidates on the issues of importance. The debate was interrupted numerous times to run promotions for ABC entertainment shows, and the first 45 minutes of questions were all about extraneous matters which have already been overplayed in the media and have no actual importance to the understanding of the positions of the candidates on the top issues. More than enough has been said about Jeremiah Wright, bitter American comments, flag lapel pins, radicals from 40 years ago, Hillary's pretend heroism in Bosnia and questions of whether she can be trusted. We did not need 45 minutes more of it at the outset of what will probably be the last head to head go around between these two Democrats.

In that first 45 minutes the two questioners, the usually pleasant Charles Gibson, who seemed like an old bumbler trying to act like a charming youth, and diminutive George Stephanopoulos, a former PR man for Hillary, who should have declined to participate because of appearances of conflict of interest, acted like they were auditioning for some sleazy pseudo-journalism show entitled "Gotcha". George even sunk so low as to submit a question from Fox News farce Sean Hannity, about Barack serving on a charity board on which a Weatherman radical from 40 years ago also served. Barack pointed out that if limited association with an aged radical is of interest, then President Clinton having pardoned two former Weathermen might be of greater interest.

The debate was the first in seven weeks and just a few days before the important Pennsylvania primary. The interest that led to the high number of viewers was pre-existing and rather than being stimulated by the way ABC conducted the program, the audience was insulted and discouraged. Two thirds of the 45 minutes was spent attacking Obama, giving him reason to be perturbed, but I think he connected best with frustrated voters when he expressed his disappointment that we were not getting to hear about the issues that really matter in this country and that the approach reflected in the first 45 minutes is just what needs to be changed in this country because it turns so many people off.

There were some specifics in the last, more substantive part of the debate, that have not received as much attention as they would have without the first 45 minutes of throw aways. On taxes, both candidates may have gone a little too far in pledging to not raise taxes on incomes under $200-250,000. On the middle east, Hillary seemed to be going way too far in saying we should try to deter wars there by announcing we will intervene in any conflicts that take place in the region.

Negative campaigning hurts the target, but it also hurts the attacker. As long as Hillary keeps it up, and the media play into it, the Democrats are being hurt. Pennsylvania should have been an easy win for Hillary. It has the third oldest population in the country and working people there are suffering more than in most other states. She is expected to win, but her margin of victory may not be very high, which should increase the pressure on super delegates to endorse Obama and on Hillary to get out of the way.

3 Comments:

Blogger Tom Blake said...

It looks like Clinton won Pennsylvania by 10 points. I was hoping it would be half that, but the demographics in Pennsylvania strongly favored Hillary, especially the high number of older women registered as Democrats. This was a closed primary, so there were no crossover or independent voters, groups with which Barack has a much higher appeal than does Hillary. The next real test for Hillary is not the Indiana and NC primaries in two weeks. The scoring is going on right now to see if her 10 points in PA will materialize into sorely needed campaign contributions. Hillary wants this nomination so fervently that she will fight and scratch and do everything she can to get it, without regard to what her tactics may be doing to Obama, the Democratic Party and ultimatley the country if McCain were to get elected.

Right now, many Democrats are polarized to the point of saying they would not vote in November for the Democrat they did not support for he nomination. This attitude is much stronger among Hillary supporters, especially the older women who I suspect see it as a tactic to persuade super delegates to choose Hillary even if Barack is ahead after the primaries. I believe most sincere Democrats, many independents and a few moderate Republicans will vote in November for whatever Democrat has been nominated. Some young Democratic voters may choose not to vote or to vote third party if the nomination is taken from Barack by the super delegates, but I find it increasingly hard to see that happening. Since Super Tuesday, Barack has received the overwhelming majority of super delegates who have announced support, and Hillary would have to pull several major upsets in the remaining primaries to have any hope of reversing the tide.

1:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It would appear to me that McCain is gaining ground as the Democratic Party internal fighting continues. As I have said before, that's ok with me because I think McCain would be good for the country and might turn the Republican Party into a party that represents the interests of the majority of the country. If he could sever the ties between the
Republican Party and the religious right, that would really help this country.

I have two concerns about McCain. The first is his support of the war in Iraq. But the paradoxical history of the US might lead us to believe he is the best person to extricate us from this terrible war. Consider Nixon opening the door to China. Consider LBJ, a southerner, pasing the landmark civil rights legislation. Maybe McCain will trumpet militarism and bring our boys and girls home.

The second concern I have is his choice of VP. The odds are high he will not finish two terms and maybe not the first term. Given our relative ages, I hope I am wrong on both counts. But if he selects a right wing, religious zealot bozo as a running mate, I will be very unhappy. McCain represents the best opportunity this country has seen since Rockefeller for turning the GOP into a force for progress.

I like Obama's message of bringing the country together. But his message does not mean that he is necessarily the person to lead the unification. Old man McCain might be the right person instead of the young Obama.
John from Phoenix

8:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Arizona Republic ran an article that Obama is failing to carry the white vote bloc. Did you see that article? Comments?
John from Phoenix

8:33 AM  

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