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Wednesday, March 05, 2008

Hillary Reality Check


In her speech last night Hillary Clinton touted her electoral victory in Ohio, pointing out that in recent history no President has been elected who did not win the Ohio primary. She also mentioned her victory in Rhode Island. She said Texas was close but was hopeful she would win the vote, which it looks like she has by a small margin. She did not mention her defeat in Vermont. She said her campaign would continue, apparently all the way to the Convention. Let's look at the reality of what happened in the four primary elections yesterday and where the process now stands.

Clinton had a huge early lead in the polls for Ohio. That lead shrunk over time as Obama became more known to voters. It is interesting that Clinton saved the line about Ohio primary victory as a Presidential pre-requisite until she actually won. Even she apparently was concerned she might lose the Ohio vote. Her peer group, older white women, delivered the victory, apparently somehow questionably identifying with the campaign struggle of a multi millionaire, high-powered attorney from middle class middle America who accompanied her husband on a political career in Arkansas that surprisingly led to eight years for her as First Lady, after which she relocated to New York in order to take a seat in the United States Senate. I suppose the secrecy of her income tax returns and of her White House records is intended to protect her voter base from realizing she is not really that much like them. According to the delegate selection formula, though Clinton had a fairly substantial electoral lead in Ohio, her delegate total will be only marginally larger than Obama's.

Rhode Island and Vermont are small states, but the electoral vote from either of them could be enough one year to decide a close election (though not in 2008, which I expect to be quite favorable to the Democrats). It was not nice of Hillary to snub Vermont in her comments, just because voters there rejected her readily. Fact is, the two states are a wash.

In Texas, where at one time she had a comfortable lead in the polls, Hillary prevailed due to the Hispanic vote, supposedly in part because she and Bill spent a time registering Hispanic voters there one summer back in their school days. But, because of the formula for allocation of delegates and because Texas also was choosing some by caucus, at which Obama does better, the expectancy is that the slim electoral lead of Clinton will be reversed into a delegate lead for Obama.

So Clinton will continue her campaign. But of the remaining states, it appears Obama will do better than Clinton, and it is highly unlikely Clinton will able to surpass him in delegate count. The best she can hope for is to win the Pennsylvania primary fairly convincingly. It is a closed primary and supposedly Obama has not won one of those, at least one that counted for delegates [he won the beauty contest closed primary here in Washington State]. To me that confirms that Obama has broader appeal, attracting support of independents that Clinton cannot.

Recently Clinton has run negative ads attacking the ability of Obama to handle a security crisis. Never mind that the biggest crisis Hillary has had to deal with was the improper placement of the sex organ of her husband. The Clinton campaign will do whatever it takes to win, regardless of what it does to the Democratic Party or to the country. Obama will defend, but not stoop to the Clinton attack level. That is the fundamental character difference between the two and that is a large part of the appeal of Obama. Now that McCain has locked up the GOP nomination, all attention will be on the Democrats, but Clinton will not use the free attention to put the Democrats ahead of McCain. Instead she will use it to sow doubts about the suitability of Obama. It is one thing to say she is better than him, but quite different to say he is not up to the task.

The Clinton approach is divisive. She clearly thinks in terms of red states and blue states, playing right into the hands of Republican long term strategy. Obama thinks in terms of one America, offering the genuine hope for change for the better that has attracted so many young people to his brand of Democratic politics.

One thing clear is that the Democratic Party process for selecting its nominee is not truly democratic. The super delegates represent the hypocritical compromise too often made in democracies, giving inside elites a power to override the voice of the people. The Republican approach of winner take all mirrors the electoral college process, so is more predictive of Presidential election prospects. As an advocate for the elimination of the electoral college, I would like to see the Democrats go to a process where the candidate who amasses the greatest popular vote in the primaries becomes the nominee. That leaves open the question of how to schedule the primaries, one time of national voting or a series of regional or State votes.

In scheduling sequential primary voting, conflicts between the national and state parties need to be avoided, to prevent rogue primaries like those in Florida and Michigan. In order not to disenfranchise voters in those two states and because the contest between Clinton and Obama is fairly close, elections will probably be rescheduled in both. Ironically, the two states who jumped the gun to be able to play a decisive role before Super Tuesday, may now be placed at the end of the sequence and play a decisive role from that position.

The fact is neither candidate can win without the super delegates. By convention time Obama will have the lead in popular vote, delegates and number of states won, all of which he will argue mean the super delegates should confirm him. Clinton will argue the supers should consider the big states that she won as more important and anoint her. Each will argue that they are a better match up against McCain, Obama because of his appeal to independents, new voters and anti-Clinton moderates, and Clinton because of her appeal to older white women who are faithful voters, Hispanics reluctant to vote for an African-American and those who see Obama as inexperienced.

In spite of talk of friendship between Hillary and Barack, I do not see either being the running mate of the other. I think Barack should choose Bill Richardson, who would provide the Hispanic and experience factors to the ticket. Since the only way I see Hillary getting nominated is if the super delegates override the vote of the people, I don't even want to consider who she might choose for a running mate.

7 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tom,
You appear to have lost all objectivity regarding the Democratic contenders. Your comment about older white women is obnoxious. My older white wife, who normally has no idea of who is even running for political office is a Hillary supporter. She doesn't care that Hillary is rich. She admires Hillary for not letting her husband's follies interfere with her own aspirations.

You are following the lead of many in the media who are attacking Hillary and letting Barack continue his empty retoric unopposed. What is the point of referring to her income tax returns? You will never admit that Obama has no clothes, but why?

I could understand if you took a reasoned approach that Clinton could not stand up to McCain and therefore Obama should be the Democratic candidate. But no, you are saying that Clinton is evil, so she should not be the Democratic candidate. I don't believe that. I think all three candidates would be good presidents. I put Obama last only because he has no record for me to evaluate.

I would suggest, Tom, that you follow the advice of our high school Christian Brother teachers and examine your conscience to determine why you are so biased in your approach to the Democratic candidtes.

John from Phoenix

10:05 PM  
Blogger Tom Blake said...

As you and I John, like much of America, are now being drawn down to a lower level of discourse in the process of evaluating the two remaining Democratic contenders, let's be aware of who is doing the pulling and also of where we are personally coming from.

The deterioration in discourse is a Clinton tactic. Bill and Hillary are a close team on everything political that they do. Electing Hillary would also be electing Bill again, de facto. The latest Clinton tactic is intended to pull Obama down to a lower level of demeaning dialog. Obama's campaign is based in part on his status as a refreshing, hopeful voice for working together to solve our problems, which is quite different from the Clinton style of fighting, ducking and then either succumbing, caving in or selling out, all the while blaming the media for unfair treatment.

I am objective about facts, but subjective about my aspirations for our country. Historical facts confirm Democrats are the best politicians to realize my aspirations for America, while Republicans operate antithetical to my goals. The Clintons have historically operated in a way I consider only marginally Democratic and in some ways actually moderately Republican.

Barack Obama was an unknown quantity to me when this campaign began, so I read his first book, "Dreams from My Father" and learned many encouraging facts about who he is and what he has done. I am now reading his book, "Audacity of Hope" in which he sets out his aspirations for America. If you were actually interested in learning who Barack Obama is, then you, an avid reader, would read his books (or listen tot hem on tape - his reading of Audacity beat Bill Clinton for the Grammy, by the way).

You, John, obviously know the historical facts of what the two political parties have done, but you always seem reluctant to make the connection between your aspirations for America and one or the other of the political parties. You answer compass questions as a somewhat progressive, you claim your Arizona Republican voting record is a defensive move to block ultra conservatives, and you think John McCain would be a good President. My friend, in theory you may espouse a few progressive views, but in practice you are a John McCain Republican. You will vote for McCain for President, regardless of which Democrat is nominated, so your input regarding the Democratic nominee must be taken with a large grain of salt.

I know my comment about older white women was not overly sensitive, but I fail to see how it is obnoxious. The facts support what I wrote: older white women were her highest percentage voting group; she is a multi-millionaire; a high-powered attorney; from middle class mid America; accompanied her husband to Arkansas for his political career; was First Lady after his surprising election; relocated to New York to run for the Senate, and won twice; her tax returns remain secret as do many of the White House papers of her husband which involve Hillary's activities, most notably her task force on health care. The only arguable statements I made were both prefaced by words of qualification. I said older white women apparently identified with her, and I said sarcastically that I suppose she wants to keep her tax returns secret so those women will not be disabused of that questionable identification.

I wrote that the biggest crisis Hillary has faced was the Lewinsky affair. If you watched the last couple debates you would have seen Hillary agreeing with me on that. When asked a question about facing crisis, she paused, smiled and connected with the audience, and we all knew what she was taking about we she referred to it by generalities about personal lives. Your apolitical wife "admires Hillary for not letting her husband's follies interfere with her own aspirations". That seems to be what a lot of older women identify with; men [present company excluded, of course] too often mess around on their wives, who choose to stay in the marriage for benefits other than sexual fidelity. In Hillary's case, women seem to be thinking, like your wife apparently does, that Hillary stayed because she decided that was the best thing for her political aspirations.

We will never know for sure what Hillary thought the likelihood was that her husband would embroil the nation in a sex scandal while President, distracting his attention from the important business of our nation, and providing ammunition to Republican obstructionists and those who sought to regain the White House by energizing evangelicals. We have to wonder whether she truly never thought he could be so foolish, or whether she calculated to take the chance in furtherance of her own aspirations. If she calculated to take the chance, and her calculation was wrong, we have to wonder how concerned she was for what damage a wrong guess would do to the country. Such a mistaken calculation seems to be just exactly what she did on her vote authorizing the invasion of Iraq, with all the resulting damage that has caused.

In the last fifty years in this country, our concept of the role of women has changed dramatically, but we have a long way to go before women are fully liberated from our hangups. Electing a woman President would be another step, but voting for a woman because she did not let her husband's follies stand in the way of her aspirations would seem to make it more of a baby step. The bigger step will come when we elect a woman President who either has a marriage without such follies, or has persuaded her husband to cease such follies or failing such persuasion has dumped him.

You have provided no factual basis for saying the Obama rhetoric is empty and that he "has no clothes". You have not said that you have read his books and examined his history and voting record. You have not said that you have listened to his speeches or watched him in any of the Presidential debates. You cannot see what you have not looked at. His positions are quite similar to Hillary's, so in some ways he could be considered a centrist Democrat. However, as I previously pointed out, she has ducked votes on many issues on which he has voted, so that has resulted in his voting record in some circles being considered more liberal than hers. In not ducking votes, he has shown more courage. On Iraq, he has shown better judgment.

Making tax returns public is recognized by all advocates of good government as a legitimate and important tool for voters to be informed about a candidate. When pressed on this by Tim Russert at a recent debate, Hillary said she would make them public, but when pushed further for a commitment to a date, she said it would take time to get them together. These are tax forms, which could be scanned and up on her web site within an hour if she wanted them public. One cannot but wonder what she wants to hide.

I did not say that Hillary is evil and I did not say she would not make a good President. I have pointed out her strengths and her weaknesses as I see them, but I have never applied a blanket epithet. As a centrist Democrat she could be a good President, but I think Obama could be a better one, and I think he has a better prospect of beating McCain than she does.

Here at Sense, I have been openly examining my conscience during this campaign, something I was taught to do, not by the defective role modeling of the Irish Christian Brothers, but earlier by the sincerely good Sisters of the Holy Names of Jesus and Mary who taught me in grade school. I have given Hillary every chance to receive my vote, but I cannot in good conscience prefer her over Barack Obama.

1:09 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tom,
Those are thoughtful comments. I'll comment briefly on them.
1. I can't tell if you think it would be a good or bad thing to have Bill Clinton back in the White House. I think Bill was the best president we have had since LBJ. I can't see having Bill in the White House as necessarily bad. It certainly would be interesting to see how the dynamics play out.
2. In my view, techniques candidates use to get elected have a weak connection on how they behave after being elected. Fortunately for our nation, most politicians by definition are flexible and adjust easily and quickly to new demands. We have seen that over and over. One example, Kennedy picking LBJ as his running mate. I am very afraid of ideologues. I believe the three candidates are not ideologues; I think they are pragmatic politicians. So Clinton's campaign techniques bother me not at all.
3. I agree I should get to know Obama better. I checked at the library web site and it has many copies of his books, and all of them are checked out. I put myself on the waiting list for Audacity. Unfortunately for me the library has no audio books. But I suspect his books are like most books by people who have presidential ambitions: self serving and repetitious. So I should be able to skim it quickly.
4. I do not think of myself as a John McCain Republican. I don't think that way at all. I think there have been some governments that have been good for the country and some that have been bad. Most governments have had good and bad points (but I cannot think of anything good about George W's). But I don't praise or blame the parties. I suppose I am a member of today's biggest faction: independent.
5. I doubt that I will vote for McCain. I strongly disagree with his position on the Iraq war.
6. I think your comment about older white women was demeaning because you said they apparently identified with her. I don't think that is apparent at all. It is only a supposition on your part that they identify with her. My supposition is that very few people in this country identify with her for all the reasons you listed. My supposition is that older white women admire her for all the reasons you listed.
7. Monica is ancient history. The country's reaction to the Monica affair showed our country at its hypocritical worst and the Monica affair should not be allowed to continue tainting our political processes. I can't stop people from writing or talking about it, but I can refuse to read or listen.
8. I second your comment about the Holy Names sisters.
John from Phoenix

1:20 PM  
Blogger Tom Blake said...

Here, John, are my quick comments on your most recent ones:

1. I don't want Bill back in the White House. I don't want to see Presidents coming back through the side door, especially with family dynasty overtones. Former Presidents can offer comments from a distance, as Jimmy Carter does, but should not be part of the inner circle of future Presidents. Bill had his eight years but did not get done what he should have, because in his second term he blew it [or more accurately, he chose to get blown]. I think the two term Presidential limit is very wise; in fact, I wonder whether we should consider limiting a President to one term.

2. Political campaigns seem to be a necessary evil. In an ideal world, voters would be intelligent and accurately informed, so that campaign tricks would not work. Politics requires flexibility, but some politicians are too double jointed, just as some are ideologues. Bush is an inflexible ideologue who not only campaigned by tricks, but continued his tricks in the White House.

3. You might browse Obama's books at a book store. His first one is sure to grab you. The "Audacity" book states his opinions and aspirations on the issues, and so while self-serving, provides the information people are saying they want to have about him. Library demand for the books is high, making me wonder why politicans don't loan extra copies to libraries during campaigns.

4. I am glad to hear your are not a McCain Republican. I don't get independents. Some are people who claim there is no significant difference between the two major parties, which is hard for me to understand. If they think both parties are unappealing then they should find a third party to support. Many independents are probably libertarians, some without realizing it. Many independents are uninformed about the role political parties play in our government. I think most independents don't want to embrace a party because they are uncomfortable with possibly being challenged by opposite partisans, and it is easier for them to sanctimoniously remain "above the fray". I am not sure what kind of independent you consider yourself.

5. It is discouraging that the War is not still recognized as the major issue of the campaign. An opponent of the War should undoubtedly not vote for McCain.

6. I still think older white women tend to vote for Hillary because they identify with her position as a woman in our society, just as African-Americans identify with Obama and so tend to vote for him. The fact that the two candidates are far better off than those who identify with them does not detract from the fact they are both the first viable Presidential candidates from their group. There is nothing wrong with voting on identity, so long as it is consistent with the other reasons the voter has in mind.

7. Every time I see Bill, I think of Monica, and I am reminded that one of the most intelligent Presidents we ever had did one of the stupidest things a President ever did.

8. And by implication, about the Brothers.

2:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

4. I am not a very devout independent. I am mostly in sympathy with the views of the Democratic Presidential candidates over the years. But I joined the Republican Party because, although Presidential politics is fun, the real impact on us is from the local politicians. Arizona has no viable Democratic Party although it has a few very visible Democratic office holders. My hope, probably vain, was to make the Arizona Republican Party more centrist.
John from Phoenix

8:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tom,
I got the Obama book, The Audacity of Hope, from the library - the book because it did not have an audio version. I read about 50 pages the day I picked it up. I set it on the stand next to my bed and there it lay until it was due. I returned it yesterday, mostly unread. I had good intentions, but the reality of reading self serving campaign books bores me beyond belief. I felt that way about Kennedy's Profiles in Courage. Of course Sorenson wrote it, not Kennedy. And probably someone other than Barack wrote the Obama book. Neither Clinton nor Obama is really moving away from the status quo of campaigning. Only McCain is trying to change his party. But I can't vote for him because of his support of the futile and costly war he supports. Nevertheless, I have too many things going in my life to waste time reading Obama's book. I thank Benjamin Franklin for lending libraries. At least I wasted only time but not money on Obama's book.
John from Phoenix

7:08 PM  
Blogger Tom Blake said...

Books written to support personal political campaigns are by nature self-serving, and so is "Audacity", but I do think it did a better job than most in setting out an understanding of the complexity of the issues this country faces and laying out an approach toward addressing them. The book shows that while Obama has progressive goals, he is not the flaming liberal as some portray him. Indeed as he wrote of a nuanced and accommodating approach on many issues, I found his positions did not match my impatience, but I had to agree his approach is more realistic than mine.

Obama does his own writing and has excellent skill for expressing himself. Most recently, he wrote his speech on race relations. The book to read is "Dreams from my Father", a memoir in which he sets out his background and how it affected him in making his life choices. I found it quite affecting and informative and an all around good read, regardless of his celebrity and political status. It had much worthwhile to say about parenting, personal relationships, racial identity and the search each one of us makes to understand our place in life.

We will not have better campaigns until we have better voters. Status quo campaigning takes place because it works. Obama added a charisma factor built around a positive message of hope, which was a little different and made a special connection with a lot of young and previously uninvolved voters. He has raised many times more money than all the other campaigners, yet his avcerage contribution is just over $100, making his campaign a populist one. Hillary's money comes more from big donors, the ones who are trying to lean on the super delegates to take the choice away from the people.

McCain is not going to change the Republican Party. He has become the nominee through attrition of a pathetically weak field of splinter candidates. The Republican Party is up for grabs, but even if, God [or whatever higher force] forbid, McCain were somehow to become President, his hybrid mix of positions will not be embraced as a Republican package. I expect the Republican Platform this year will be highly divergent from voting record of their Presidential candidate.

Conservative Tony Blankley of the Washington Times was asked which Democrat the right prefers, as easiest to beat. His honest answer was that the right is not sure, that Clinton has a higher floor and lower ceiling of possible votes, while Obama has a lower floor and higher ceiling. Race will probably be the determinative factor. If voters embrace Obama's racial mixture, he will do quite well; if they fear it, he will do poorly. If race is a neutral or if opposite attitudes on race cancel each other out, then it will not be a factor. Democrat primary voters have embraced Obama, but how race will play with independents may be a big factor in the ultimate choice of our President.

Almost 50 years ago, the attitude of voters toward the Catholicism of JFK was the question. I don't think his squeaky victory provided the answer. Since then, we have only had one Catholic nominee of a major party (John Kerry) as far as I can recall.

Long live lending libraries.

8:27 AM  

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